Tag: model a

Dear Welder Series… Model A front axle question

Dear Welder Series…
Hello,
I just wanted to thank you for your catalog.
I am going to attempt at 64 years old to build my first hot rod on a fixed income(retired).
It’s a Model A full fendered and my question is can I use a stock 48 Ford axle (48′) with your flat front cross member,a reverse eye spring and 500 or 560-15 front tire and A)get the required drop or stance and B) will the front tires stick out too far into the fender as the 48 axle is 1 inch wider on each side.
Again many thanks,
Bryan

Dear Bryan…
Good questions. I’ve been sitting looking at your email for a few minutes trying to decide how to answer them. And it comes down to: “It depends…”

It depends on the stance you want. A starting point might be to put the axle and wheels/tires that will be used under the car with no spring mounted. Use a short (4” long?) 2×4 on edge, running front-to-rear, on top of the axle and under the stock front crossmember. This mock-up will be about as close to a low spring arch as you can get. If you are ok with the tire width and fender clearance at this height you can consider going lower.

The flat crossmember will let you lower the front a maximum of 2” compared to the stock crossmember. The stock Model A rad bottom tank drops down into the stock crossmember area. The rad shell hides the upper and lower tanks and the side straps. Our flat crossmember will use up the space that the lower tank wants, so a custom rad would be required. The rad shell would not hide the bottom tank. This is something to consider.  

I hope this gives you some help with your build. Thanks for looking at Welder Series parts.
Paul Horton

Dear Welder Series…
Thank you very much for your info Paul.
You have provided me some tips that I never knew in spite of reading hot rod magazines for 50 years.
Take care,
Bryan

Dear Welder Series… Model A triangulated four link

Dear Welder Series…
I would like to know if you have plans in the future to supply triangulated four bar rear kits for model A’s and also would like to see a kit to adapt the Uni-steer type single cross steer rack to the Model A frame without using a vega bracket in addition to the bracket the rack comes with? Thanks for your time, Jon.

Dear Jon…
Thanks for gving me these two things to think about, Jon.

Dealing with the Unisteer  rack first, I have work to do studying the “blank” end of the rack’s position in a right turn relative to the lower 4-bar.  This won’t happen for a few months at least.

The Welder Series’ WS218500 triangulated kit (http://104.154.121.234/online-store/rear-four-link-kit-triangulated/) could be used in a Model ‘A’ with these changes:
Delete:
222016D Frame bracket plate
222016P Frame bracket plate
218502 Frame bracket
Replace with:
12501 (4 pcs) Frame bracket (http://104.154.121.234/online-store/frame-bracket-12501/)  Mount the frame end of the lower bar under the frame rail and in line with the frame.  The urethane bushing would be between the plates.  This bracket will put the lower bar very close to the correct position.  I’d box the plates for extra strength.

Change the adjuster studs:
Use 2 (instead of 4) 100810 straight studs.
Add 2 100815 5 degree adjuster studs.  These will go on the lower bar at the axle end.

The reconfigured kit would cost $300.00.  I am giving it part number WS218528.

A Model ‘A’ frame is quite narrow and you might feel the upper bars don’t have enough triangulation.  Consider running the upper bars wide at the rear axle and to the middle of a crossmember for the front mounts.

I hope this helps.

Paul Horton

Dear Welder Series… two Model ‘A’ pedal questions

Dear Welder Series…
I am building a Model A style frame and I am going to use manual brakes on it. Which master cylinder bracket kit and pedal should I use?

Ryan

Dear Ryan…
If you are using an automatic transmission, the WS13704 kit was designed for the Model ‘A’.  

It is available ready-to-weld or welded.

Is this the frame that you got the frame curves for?

Thanks for looking at Welder Series, Ryan.

Paul Horton

Dear Welder Series…
Great products, great videos and product info on YouTube.

Can you recommend which master mounting bracket and pedal to use for a
model A, and is there one available that has both the brake and clutch
pedals?

Thanks Alan

Dear Alan…
Thanks for looking at our parts, Alan.  Check out 20281.  Any clutch and brake is very crowded in a Model ‘A’.  We can swap the offset brake pedal for one with no offset.  Then you can bend both pedals symmetrically to go around the steering column.

I hope we can help you with your project.

Paul Horton