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Dear Welder Series… Custom frame dimensions for Mustang II

Dear Welder Series…

I got a Mustang II front cross member from you earlier this week, 62.5″ wide, where my spindle centers are between my sub frame and car frame, its a uni body car with a front and rear sub frames, want to mount it to the sub frame I’m making, bottom of sub frame and cross member will be the same height to their bottoms but cross member is kind of floating now, yea thats where I’m at. Any ideas or suggestions for my messed up build?

Dear Steve…

Hi, Steve.
The easiest way to make a custom subframe is by having the bottom of the subframe tube the same distance from ground zero as the spindle, and use stock spindles. If you want to use 2” dropped spindles, the easy way is to have the bottom of the subframe 2” lower than spindle height from ground zero.
There is room for small variations in these frame heights, but the clearance issues become more difficult.
The outside width of the subframe for a 62-1/2” crossmember should be more than 32” and not more than 36”. The upper towers won’t have a surface to weld to if the frame is less than 32”. There will probably be spring clearance problems if the outside is more than 36”.
I hope this helps. If it isn’t clear, please email pictures and sketches of what you have and would like to do.
Paul Horton

Dear Welder Series… Mustang II cut line help (2×4 frame)

Dear Welder Series…
Paul,

Kevin here, sorry I missed your call earlier. As I said previously, I’m doing a custom front end using your mustang ii crossmember kit for coil springs. I am using 2×4 channel for the main frame rail and am looking for either the cut diagram, or just the dimensions I need to trim both the cross member and the shock tower mounts. To give you an idea, I will be doing something that looks a lot like the build linked below. I am available in the morning Monday and Tuesday next week if it would be easier to discuss on the phone.

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Kevin

Dear Kevin…

I think this is what you want. If you want to talk about it, please send me another email and I’ll call you.

Thanks for using Welder Series’ parts.
Paul

MII CUT LINES CUSTOM 4X2 FRAME 56 kit

Dear Welder Series…
I do believe that is what I need. Thank you very much. Based on the drawings, does the bottom of the tower bracket line up with the notch on the inside of the crossmember?

Dear Kevin…
Yes, it does, Kevin. And, that’s also where the stock spindle will be with all the weight on the front end. (Ride height)

Paul

Dear Welder Series…
Paul,

I accidentally gave you the wrong dimension for the frame. It’s 2×3, not 2×4. I should just add back an inch on the upper tower cutout to make it line up with the notch and it should be good, correct?

Kevin

Dear Kevin…
Kevin, you are correct. On the towers, use 3” instead of 4”.

Paul

Dear Welder Series… Mustang II: installed frame height?

Dear Welder Series…
Hi I’m building a custom frame I want to run a Mustang ll I like how you sell them and I plan on buying one from you  my question is if running air springs and a 24 inch diameter wheel how high should the frame rails be from the ground and with 6 inches of ground clearance I want the rockers of the car to sit on the ground, like I said its custom so the frame rails can be placed anywhere. Also do you have a laser cutter or are you farming out your cuts, the reason I’m asking I have some custom shaped frame rail ideas and I like the idea of cutting and welding the shapes I want, would custom cuts be something you would be interested in doing for me?  Thanks for any help  and could I bother you for a catalog? I can’t see any of your products on the web site the pics are black or digital mess ..

Tom

Dear Tom…
Tom, the frame height should be mocked up once you have the wheels and tires you will use. Then our install sheets walk you through how to cut the crossmember and upper towers so the frame will be where you want it with weight on the tires.

We work with a local laser cutter who understands what we are looking for in street rod products. We do custom work regularly and would be happy to quote on your drawings or sketches.

We’re working on the web store images… sorry for the inconvenience.

1953 International Mustang II

What do you mean, “modify the rails”?

We have had quite a few questions about installing our Mustang II kit in cars that don’t lend themselves well to a conversion. Sometimes “modifying the frame rails” is necessary. What exactly do we mean by that?

I thought I’d put together some pictures that show a few frames that have been modified to accept a Mustang II crossmember. If you have any questions about your frame or any of our parts, please email or call toll-free: 1-888-648-2150.

This Oldsmobile frame has been bottlenecked to accept our Mustang II crossmember.
This Oldsmobile frame has been bottlenecked to accept our Mustang II crossmember.
The '57 Oldsmobile has received a similar treatment, but the builder used larger diameter tubing straight forward from the firewall.
The ’57 Oldsmobile has received a similar treatment, but the builder used larger diameter tubing straight forward from the firewall.
You can see the spring clearance notch in the frame rail in this picture of the finished '57 Olds.
You can see the spring clearance notch in the frame rail in this picture of the finished ’57 Olds.
Here is a Welder Series Mustang II in a 1978 Volvo. Extra material was 'wrapped' around the existing front rails of the unibody car.
Here is a Welder Series Mustang II in a 1978 Volvo. Extra material was ‘wrapped’ around the existing front rails of the unibody car.
A '57 Ford frame has the springs mounted inside the frame rails.
A ’57 Ford frame has the springs mounted inside the frame rails.
The '57 has been cleaned up and 2x4 tubing was used to mount our MII.
The ’57 has been cleaned up and 2×4 tubing was used to mount our MII.
1953 International Mustang II
1953 International Mustang II
1953 International Mustang II
1953 International Mustang II
1940 Dodge Mustang II
1940 Dodge Mustang II
1940 Dodge Mustang II
1940 Dodge Mustang II

If you’ve put our in something “weird”, please send us some pictures!