Category: Mustang II Application Questions

Dear Welder Series… 1953 Buick Mustang II?

Dear Welder Series…
Hi! I’m building a 53 Buick Special in Memphis and was looking for some info on Mustang 2 IFS. I’d like to build my own setup but not really sure where to begin! Any info would be greatly appreciated and any parts to get me going I would definitely purchase! Thanks for your time!

Dear Mustang II In Memphis…
Thanks for looking at the Welder Series site and asking about our parts for your project.  

The easiest way (and it’s not easy…) is to cut off the stock frame at the firewall and use rectangular tubing as new front frame rails. The Mustang II crossmember and towers will mount to them. It will be necessary to fab mounts to support the rad (cradle) and front end sheet metal. There are several pictures on our website where builders have done this. See them at:

http://104.154.121.234/#!/Mustang-II-Crossmember-Kit-Coil-Springs/p/51209443/category=12959481

and

http://104.154.121.234/#!/Mustang-II-Crossmember-Kit-Coil-Overs/p/51209593/category=12959481&forcescroll=true

We want to help you enjoy this build.

Paul Horton

Dear Welder Series… 1950 Chev Pickup Mustang II?

Dear Welder Series…
Hi! I have a 1950 Chevy 3100 pickup. I decided that I want to run with the mustang II ifs. I won’t be able to buy everything all at once, so I want to start with the crossmember. I want to run bags, so it will sit on the ground. Can you tell me what crossmember is best? Thank you.

Dear Juan…
If you are planning to use conventional bags, use the 56-1/2” version at http://104.154.121.234/#!/Mustang-II-Crossmember-Kit-Coil-Springs/p/51209443/category=12959481. The airbag people have mounting brackets to fit in the upper towers.

If you plan to use ShockWaves, use the 56-1/2” version of http://104.154.121.234/#!/Mustang-II-Crossmember-Kit-Coil-Overs/p/51209593/category=12959481.

There are pictures of airbags being used in the thumbnail pictures at those url’s.

Thanks for looking at Welder Series parts for your pickup, Juan.

Paul Horton

Dear Welder Series… 1976 Datsun 260Z Mustang II

Dear Welder Series… 
I’m customizing a 1976 Datsun 260Z for a client. It has an all aluminum Mustang Cobra 32V V8 up front and a narrowed 9″ triangulated 4 link setup in the rear. I want to put something like your Mustang II IFS kit on the front and get rid of the struts so that I can mount a wider torque thrust II wheel to match that back.

The frame rails have a lip that sticks out a little on the bottom facing out, and the width from that outside edge to outside edge is 32″. They are smooth on the inside.

Do you have something that will work for me? If you do, can you send me other dimensions so that I can measure up to make sure everything will fit under the original fenders?

Any help would be appreciated,

Thanks.

Brett

Dear Brett…
Brett, our Mustang II kits are designed to be installed in almost any frame. What measurement do you want between the wheel mounting surfaces? (Where the wheels are against the rotors…)

What diameter tire will you use on the front?

With the frame at ride height, what is the distance from the ground to the bottom of the frame at the spindle location?

As above to the top of the frame?

With this info, I’ll be able to tell you about installation issues you might run into and suggest ways around them, if necessary.

Thanks for looking at Welder Series parts.

Paul Horton

Dear Welder Series…
Thanks for getting back to me.

There are a lot of questions there that I don’t have the answers to yet.

I’ve just finished the back end of the car, so let me measure the front up this weekend and I will get back to you.

Cheers,

Brett.

Dear Brett…
Thanks, Brett. I might be slower getting back to you for the next week or so… There will be days when I’m out of internet access. I’ll try not to keep you off the road too long…

Paul Horton

Dear Welder Series…
Here are those numbers!

What measurement do you want between the wheel mounting surfaces? 54″

What diameter tire will you use on the front? Don’t know yet, but to match the rear the center of the front spindle will need to be 12 3/8″ from the ground.

With the frame at ride height, what is the distance from the ground to the bottom of the frame at the spindle location? 11″

As above to the top of the frame? 14″

This car is pretty low, so if we need to go up or down a little, I would prefer to go up a little on the ride height. We have a tri-4-link with coil overs on the back so we can always adjust the back up or down to match whatever the front ends up being.

Cheers,

Brett.

To Be Continued…

Dear Welder Series… 1960 Falcon Pro Touring Front Suspension

A detailed conversation with Mark, who's interested in installing a custom width Mustang II crossmember in his 1960 Falcon pro-touring build.

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Dear Welder Series… JeepRod Mustang II?

Dear Welder Series…
I am building an army willys jeeprod and I plan to put a mustang II suspension in front of grill. 30 1/2″ outside frame to outside frame. Money is limited so what would a complete kit cost me. I could not find any complete kits on your site. Thanks and God bless.

Dear Pastor Ron…
Ron, we sell only the crossmember kit and a disc brake kit, not a hub-to-hub kit. Several of our dealers offer complete kits using our crossmember. They are listed at http://104.154.121.234/dealers-builders/ . The 56″ kit will likely need some frame trimming for coil spring clearance.

Thanks for looking at Welder Series parts for your project.

Paul Horton

Dear Welder Series… 1973 Ford Truck Mustang II?

I have a 1973 F100 that I really want to lower, I know with the I beam set up, I won't be able to lower the truck as low as I want to. On your Mustang 2 parts for the front end do you think I would be able to weld in one of your kits and make it work?

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Dear Welder Series… Mustang II for 1950 Studebaker?

Dear Welder Series…
What measurements or info is required so you might be able to tell me which mustang ll kit I would need to use in a 1950 Studebaker champion 2 dr coupe and a starlite coupe. Would a 1948 starlite use the same kit as the 50? thnx

Dear Roger…
Roger, there are two measurements to consider when selecting a Welder Series Mustang II kit:  the track width that you want and the outside frame width in the crossmember area.
Track width is the rotor wheel mounting surface to surface dimension. Welder Series makes 3 widths: stock (56″), and 2″ and 4″ wider (58″ & 60″). These are nominal dimensions. With stock, 4-bolt MII rotors the actual track width would be 1/2″ wider than our listed spec, but the final track width is dependent on the control arms, wheels, and brake system used. An easy way to estimate the stock track width is to measure tire tread center to center.
The outside frame width is less critical than track width, but is a consideration. Our 56″ kit likes a frame o.d. of 26″ – 30″.  The 58″ kit likes 28 – 32″ and the 60″ kit likes 30 – 34″. If the frame doesn’t correspond to these dimensions, there are work-arounds that we can suggest.

I hope this helps with your planning. Thanks for asking.

Dear Welder Series… 1974 Triumph Spitfire Mustang II?

I have a 1974 triumph spitfire with a sbc, it has a frame width of 19" and a track width of 49.5", i would like to install your mustang 2 crossmember do you see any reason why your 56" would not work if I narrow it?

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Dear Welder Series… 1951 Chevy Mustang II?

Dear Welder Series…
I want to start purchasing the parts to the Mustang II kit, I have a 51 Chevy Coupe. I was looking at this: http://www.welderseries.com/blog/online-store/crossmember-plate-mustang-ii-reartop/

I have a couple questions.

1.What track width do I select for that car? I’m probably going to run stock steel wheels and 640 Bias Ply tires.

2. When I do purchase the upper spring hat, will it allow me use air bags??

Dear Drew…
Thanks for looking at Welder Series parts, Drew. The 56″ track width is right for your Chev. The kit for stock-type springs will let you use air bags. The bag companies have a top hat looking adapter.

Dear Welder Series… 1935 Plymouth Mustang II?

Dear Welder Series…
hi–do you guys make  a mustang 2 kit for a 1935 plymouth coupe?? either weld-in or bolt-in?? thanks for your time–tom

Dear Tom…
Tom, our 56″ kits are the ones to use in your Plymouth. They are on our site at http://www.welderseries.com/blog/online-store/ws14540/ and http://www.welderseries.com/blog/online-store/21906/.

Thanks for looking at Welder Series parts for your build.

Dear Welder Series… Mustang II in a 1936 Chevy Pickup?

Dear Welder Series…
Can I make your Mustang II kit work on a 1936 Chevy pickup frame? Thanks.

Dear Mike…
Our 56″ kits would be the right size for your Chev pickup. They are described on our website at http://www.welderseries.com/blog/online-store/ws14540/ and http://www.welderseries.com/blog/online-store/21906/ .

I hope we can help with your project.
Paul Horton

Dear Welder Series… 1937 Studebaker Mustang II crossmember?

Dear Welder Series…
We are building a 1937 Studebaker 2dr president coupe. I’m helping my dad build and am talking him into the mustang front suspension. I talked to a friend of mine at air ride tech and he pointed me in your direction. We are dropping an LT1 and auto in it. Going for a comfy driver with a nice stance.
Please let me know if any of your front suspensions will work. I’m gonna get some frame dimensions measured up and I will look more into your site.

Dear Jason…
Jason, our kit is easy to fit to lots of frames. Decide what track width you want to use and if you want to use stock-style springs and shocks of coil-overs with an eye mount top and bottom. If you are looking at conventional air springs, use the kit for stock springs. If you want ShockWaves, use our coil-over kit.

We also have mounts for LS series engines and they are easy to adapt to most frames.

Thanks for looking at Welder Series parts. Please get in touch again if you have other questions.

Paul Horton

Dear Welder Series… Mustang II in a 1970 F100?

Dear Welder Series…
Hey guys I have been doing a little resurch I have a 1970 f100 and I’m looking to do either a crown Vic or mustang 2 front end swap and a 4 link in the rear. Could you guys help me out a little is the mustang ii front crossmember just a weld up deal or little confused and live in Wyoming so not a whole lot of people to help me out haha

Dear Donavan…
Our MII kit is available in pieces so you can save money by welding it. A video on our website shows this being done. http://104.154.121.234/online-store/ws14540/

The instructions show how to cut notches in the crossmember and upper towers so your frame will sit at the ride height you want.

I hope this helps. Please ask other questions that you might have.

Paul Horton